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TOLEDO HATE WEEK: The History

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Out of all the 120 teams in Division I football, there is no team that I hate more than Toledo.  Not one.  Any self-respecting NIU fan will tell you the exact same thing.  Some of the younger Huskie faithful will wonder why that exactly is the case. 

BN (Before-Novak Era) we were 6-18 against the Rockets.  Sure we never had consistently good teams, but that's when the Rockets started to own us.  Joe Novak lost to Toledo 8 straight years before finally coming through @ their place in 2005.  His overall record was 1-10 against UT, but both coaching staffs have changed and if last year is any trend the Huskies may have the upper hand in this series now.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana. 

Here are the most heartbreaking losses to date:

2002: Toledo 33, NIU 30

In NIU's 'coming out year', the Huskies rallied back from a 1-3 non-conference slate to rally of 7 conference victories.  Everything was setting up perfectly as we got the Rockets at home for the season finale.  We were up 17-0 to start the game, but then the Rockets rallied back to beat the Huskies.  It was a typical Toledo game flinging the ball all over the field and a signature Amstutz fake punt in the 3rd quarter.  That overcame whatever NIU was able to do on offense with RB Michael Turner or WR Dan Sheldon.  K Steve Azar just missed a 62-yarder with 15 mph winds to his back as the game ended.  We finished 8-4 (7-1) that year with no Bowl Game and no MACC appearance.  Official Recap, Box Score

Star-divide

2003: #21 NIU 30, Toledo 49

2003 was 'the year' as the Huskies were nationally ranked after beating the big boys in Maryland & Alabama.  Everything was on the line in this game, as both teams came in with only 1 conference loss.  This was for Northern Illinois not only to stay in the MAC West, but to get to a bowl game.  Enter Toledo QB Bruce Gradkowski.  The Sophomore at the time led his Rocket squad to an early 28-7 lead in the first half, something the Huskies just couldn't come back from.  He finished with a 24 of 27 for 301 yds and 3 TDs performance.  It didn't help that our QB Josh Haldi threw 3 INTs.  No MACC or Bowl appearance, yet a 10-2 record to boot.  Official Recap, Box Score

2004: Toledo 31, NIU 17

The infamous WOLFE-GATE game, where RB Garrett Wolfe tried to break up a fight 3 days before and suffered an eye injury that would keep him out of this all-important game.  NIU was undefeated in-conference (AGAIN) and the MAC West title was on the line at home against the Rockets (sensing a theme here?).  What happened?  The offense sputtered and only produced a measly 180 yds compared to Toledo's 512.  297 of those were through the air by Gradkowski.  UT RB Scooter "POINT SHAVER EXTRAORDINAIRE" McDougle rushed for 133 yds and 2 TDs.  Can someone tell me why this game hasn't been awarded back to us?  No MACC, but we backdoored our way in to an obscure bowl game that year in which we won.  Official Recap, Box Score

2006: Toledo 17, NIU 13

In "The Fog Game", NIU was still pretty much in the race for the MAC West championship until the measly 3-6 Toledo Rockets came to town.  This was just a strange, strange game.  Horvath was benched for Nicholson at QB, Britt Davis had 163 yds receiving.  Why in the world was Garrett Wolfe only getting 16 carries?  It was almost like we didn't want to win this game.  Official Recap, Box Score.  How foggy was it?  This foggy:

2007: NIU 20, Toledo 70

This was pretty much the lowest point of our 2-10 season.  Some fans say that the Rockets ran up the score on us, but I think we were just that bad that year.  My recaps were here and here.  Both classic posts.  Official Recap, Box Score.

Wow.  If that didn't get you fired up to play the Rockets this weekend, I don't know what will.

Why do you hate Toledo?

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NIU/Toledo Rivalry

I must admit I was at the game on November 12, 1983, when NIU put away the 9-0 Rockets, I think it was. The cold day was made even colder by their long ride home.

Toledo and the Glass Bowl have been tough on us even in years when they didn’t figure into the playoff equation. I don’t know much about former coach Amstutz, but it seems that whenever there was a televised game, he wore that “I hate NIU” grin.

That grin added to my “distaste” for the Rockets. I suppose the other reason is that they seem to have found ways to play their best football against us in otherwise less than average years.

A win this year is a must in Toledo. We need to keep putting duct tape over my memory of Amstutz and his trademark grin.

by niufan on Oct 12, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man

That 2006 game brings back memories. Drunk and fog makes it hard to watch a game. I remember seeing Doug Flutie at Fatty’s though, which was cool.

by TJ3117 on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I live in Toledo and am a Toledo fan

and I must say if you guys hate us this much now then you are really gonna hate us in the future because there was one good thing about last weeks pathetic game against Western Michigan. We had 3 and 4 star recruits (more than 5 of them) visiting the campus on our homecoming weekend (I know this because my friend works for the coaching staff and he told me about these guys). And even though the game was as bad as it could be the whole atmosphere and festivities leading up to the game all week on campus were outstanding and I believe will be huge in getting some of those guys that visited, if they end up here. I mean listen Eric Page was a 4 star recruit that had a full ride scholarship to OSU and turned it down to stay in Toledo. Also there are two 3 star receivers from my hometown of Maumee, OH that are pretty much set in going to Toledo. Toledo is doing great at getting the best athletes around this area to stay home and go here because they know they will get playing time and be in an exciting spread offense and blitzing defense under this new coaching staff. We also have 4 freshman starting just in our secondary that will be the foundation of this defense in the future.

I’m not knocking on NIU because you guys have a really good team this year and I think you guys have a good chance of winning this game. All I’m trying to say is that Boeckman is already dramatically improving this teams talent level and he is a very good coach too. While he is here this team will get more talented and disciplined every year. Our team is really young right now and as they grow and the recruiting gets better (which it already has) we will see huge improvements on the field.

P.S. Amstutz was a horrible coach and everybody here was happy to see him go.

by toled0lions on Oct 13, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's good news

I hope you guys succeed and continue to be competitive, because that only improves the MAC as a whole. With a new coach and everything its hard, but Beckman is doing a great job in his 1st year. I’ll continue this notion as long as we keep staying on the winning end of our matchups.

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by Mike Breese on Oct 13, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winning end?

NIU is 8-28 overall against Toledo. Toledo won 11 straight from 1990 – 2004 (not playing every year, obviously) Since then, the series is split 2-2. Not exactly a winning end.

http:letsgorockets.com

by L8N on Oct 14, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since we won 38-7 last year

And since Coach Kill is 1-0 against you guys so far.

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by Mike Breese on Oct 14, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess...

a streak starts at one. Still haven’t won 2 in a row against the Rockets. Ever.

http:letsgorockets.com

by L8N on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hate?

More like rivalry. Every team has one and has to promote games that way.

But you’re correct, Toledo should be really competitive soon. That game vs Colorado this year was nasty. Completely destroyed them.

by TJ3117 on Oct 13, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well alrighty then...

According to Scout – who is a pretty reliable source, the Rockets have no 4 star recruits on the radar. Several 3 star recruits, but until they start signing letters of intent, I’m not counting on any of them. The atmosphere at the game was dreadful. The fans didn’t have a chance to get in to it giving up 20 points in a matter of minutes. Plus, I believe there were about 18,000 fans for homecoming. Not a stellar crowd. I’m glad you showed enthusiasm though.

Eric Page is not a 4 star recruit. He did not get scholarship offers from Ohio State. He was a 2 start WR coming out of HS. He got offers from several MAC schools and even Nebraska but chose to stay in Toledo. It’s worked out well for him so far.

P.S – Amstutz was a great coach who lost coordinators over the years, including those who were the best in recruiting. Recruiting is what hurt Amstutz, not coaching. The coordinators, IMO, were big problems with the offense and defense. Did Amstutz have some say? Absolutely, but he wasn’t the worst coach in football either.

http:letsgorockets.com

by L8N on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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